Networking outside workgroup?

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Networking outside workgroup?

Beitrag von SA0BJL » Samstag 13. Oktober 2012, 21:25

Hi all!
Sorry for the English, but my German is not so good.

I understand that two computers need to be in the same workgroup or domain for networking in UcxLog. But I have the need to get two computers that are 350 meters apart to network in a Multi-multi setup. Is there any way to accomplish this, perhaps with a VPN connection? Short of that I'm open for suggestions on how to extend my wireless network to cover that distance...

Thanks and 73
Lars, SA0BJL

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Re: Networking outside workgroup?

Beitrag von DL7UCX » Sonntag 14. Oktober 2012, 08:52

Hi Lars,

some users realized the UcxLog network connection also in a Virtual Private Network tunneled through the internet.
Also in a VPN you can fulfill the condition "Same Workgroup".

If you are able to extend your WLAN to 350m (directional antenna?), you are inside the LAN and do not need VPN.

73 Ben

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Re: Networking outside workgroup?

Beitrag von DL6ER » Sonntag 14. Oktober 2012, 13:58

Hi Lars,

I wrote a very long article but the Log-PC crashed and now everything is gone :evil:
Again in short words from my working-station:

- I have already extended Wireless-LANs across about 20km, depending on your location and your readiness to pay a lot of money (dir.-ant., vy good coax (e.g. Ecoflex 15) + professional Routers).

So VPN might be your way:
- I'm not using Windows at work (as it is forbidden to be used in research at my facility, cause of Security Problems), so I'm not sure if thats correct, but: Are there several Workgroups that can be set? If not, why shouldn't all PCs already be in the same Workgroup over VPN?
While looking the Internet up for this question I realized how complicated it can be: Every single Windows-Version has other Connection-Problems, if you try to connect different versions (e.g. XP <-> Win7) it's all every worse.
In your home network it should work more or less, but over VPN it depends extremely on your Setup (Win-Versions) and Settings (for the VPN-Connection).

When you give us that information, I can look forward to find a solution for you if one exists (and I can understand it without using Windows for myself :roll: )

73 Nick, DL6ER

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Re: Networking outside workgroup?

Beitrag von DL7UCX » Sonntag 14. Oktober 2012, 17:06

Hello,

I did NOT notice connection problems between different Windows versions related to UcxLog Network.
Normally the UcxLog connection succeed if at least the file release between the PCs is possible.

73 Ben

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Re: Networking outside workgroup?

Beitrag von SA0BJL » Montag 15. Oktober 2012, 21:06

Thanks for the replies! This will be a one-time setup so there's no room for hardware investments. The VPN solution sounds very good, and I'm grateful for any pointers you may have. Today we have two machines running Win XP and they are in the same workgroup. One of them will be moved to another building and hooked up to the Internet.

73 de Lars

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Re: Networking outside workgroup?

Beitrag von DM6WAN » Montag 28. Juli 2014, 18:46

Hallo,
ich habe gerade noch einmal die Diskussion zum Thema UCX-Netzwerk "outside" gelesen. Ist das korrekt, dass man sich über einen VPN-Tunnel mit einem anderen, geografisch entfernten, UCX-Rechner über das Internet verbinden kann? Problem ist ja das in der Regel keine statische IP-Adresse existiert. Da kann das bei einem Contest schon Probleme geben. Hat da jemand Erfahrungen?
73 Steffen

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Re: Networking outside workgroup?

Beitrag von DL7UCX » Dienstag 29. Juli 2014, 08:14

Hallo Steffen,

das UcxLog-Netzwerk arbeitet nicht mit IP-Adressen, sondern innerhalb des lokalen Netzwerks mit der Windows-Arbeitsgruppe (braucht "NetBIOS over TCP/IP").
Das geht auch über ein VPN.

73 Ben

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Re: Networking outside workgroup?

Beitrag von DL7UCX » Mittwoch 11. Mai 2016, 05:34

Von Steffen, DM6WAN wurde eine Anleitung für einen VPN-Tunnel mittels TeamViewer erstellt:
http://www.ucxlog.com/docs/UcxLog_Netzw ... DM6WAN.pdf

73 Ben

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